Agreeing to Disagree. STOR. Robert J. Aumann. The Annals of Statistics, Vol. 4, No. 6 (Nov., ), Stable URL. In “Agreeing to Disagree” Robert Aumann proves that a group of current probabilities are common knowledge must still agree, even if those. “Agreeing to Disagree,” R. Aumann (). Recently I was discussing with a fellow student mathematical ideas in social science which are 1).

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Views Read Edit View history. Bayesian statistics Economics theorems Game theory Probability theorems Rational choice theory Statistical theorems. Unlike many questionable applications disagree-aumsnn theorems, this one appears to have been the intention of the paper itself, which itself cites a paper defending the application of such techniques to the real world.

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Unless explicitly noted otherwise, all content licensed as indicated by RationalWiki: The Annals of Statistics. Arrow’s impossibility theorem Aumann’s agreement theorem Folk theorem Minimax theorem Nash’s theorem Purification theorem Revelation principle Zermelo’s theorem. Scott Aaronson has shown that this is indeed the case.

Or the paper’s own example, the fairness of a coin — such a simple example having been chosen for accessibility, it demonstrates the problem with agreeinng such an oversimplified concept of information to real-world situations. It was first formulated in the paper titled “Agreeing to Disagree” by Robert Aumannafter whom the theorem is named.

External links Twitter Facebook Discord. The one-sentence summary is “you can’t actually agree to disagree”: By using agrefing site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Consider two agents tasked with performing Bayesian analysis this is “perfectly rational”. This page was last edited on 6 Octoberat Risagree-aumann paper presents a way to measure how distant priors are from being common.

Scott Aaronson believes that Aumanns’s therorem can act as a corrective to overconfidence, and a guide as to what disagreements should look like.


This page was last modified on 12 Septemberat Both are given the same prior probability of the world being in a certain state, and separate sets of further information. Yudkowsky ‘s mentor Robin Hanson tries to handwave this with something about genetics and environment, [9] but to have sufficient common knowledge of genetics and environment for this to work practically would require a few calls to Laplace’s demon.

Theory and Decision 61 4 — A question arises whether such an agreement can be reached in a reasonable time and, from a mathematical perspective, whether this can be done efficiently. International Journal of Game Theory.

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In game theoryAumann’s agreement theorem is a theorem which demonstrates that rational agents with common knowledge of each other’s beliefs cannot agree to disagree. For such careful definitions of “perfectly rational” and “common knowledge” this is equivalent to saying that two functioning calculators will not give different answers on the same input.

Aumann’s agreement theorem [1] is the result of Robert Aumann’s, winner of the Swedish National Bank’s Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobelgroundbreaking discovery that a sufficiently respected game theorist can get anything into a peer-reviewed journal. Scott Aaronson [3] sharpens this theorem by removing the common prior and limiting the number of messages communicated.

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Simply knowing that another agent observed some information and came to their respective conclusion will force each to revise their beliefs, resulting eventually in total agreement on the correct posterior. More specifically, if two people are genuine Bayesian rationalists with common priorsand if they each have common knowledge of their individual posterior probabilitiesthen their posteriors must be equal.

It may be worth noting that Yudkowsky has said he wouldn’t agree to try to reach an Aumann agreement with Hanson.

Studying the same issue from a different perspective, a research paper disagrwe-aumann Ziv Hellman considers what happens if priors are not common.

The Annals of Statistics 4 6 Aumann’s agreement theorem says that two people acting rationally in a certain precise sense and with common knowledge of each other’s beliefs cannot agree to disagree. Thus, two rational Bayesian agents with the same priors and who know each other’s posteriors will have to agree. Polemarchakis, We can’t disagree forever, Journal of Economic Theory 28′: Views Read Edit Fossil record. Their posterior probabilities must then be the same.


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However, Robin Hanson has presented an argument disahree-aumann Bayesians who agree about the processes that gave rise disaree-aumann their priors e. Nash equilibrium Subgame perfection Mertens-stable equilibrium Bayesian Nash equilibrium Perfect Bayesian equilibrium Trembling hand Proper equilibrium Epsilon-equilibrium Correlated equilibrium Sequential equilibrium Quasi-perfect equilibrium Evolutionarily stable strategy Risk dominance Core Shapley value Pareto efficiency Gibbs equilibrium Quantal response equilibrium Self-confirming equilibrium Strong Nash equilibrium Markov perfect equilibrium.

Community Saloon bar To do list What is going on? For concerns on copyright infringement please see: Both sets of information include the posterior probability arrived at by the other, as well as the fact that their prior probabilities are the same, the fact that the other knows its posterior probability, the set of events that might affect probability, the fact that the other knows these things, the fact that the other knows it knows these things, the fact that the other knows it knows the other knows it knows, ad infinitum this is “common knowledge”.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Essentially, the proof goes that if they were not, it would mean that they did not trust the accuracy of one another’s information, or did not trust the other’s computation, since a different probability being found by a rational agent is itself evidence of further evidence, and a rational agent should recognize disavree-aumann, and also recognize that one would, and that this would also be recognized, and so on.

Retrieved from ” https: Disahree-aumann theorem is almost as much a favorite of LessWrong as the “Sword of Bayes” [4] itself, because of its popular phrasing along the lines of disagree-aymann agents acting rationally